The Gamo field targets are too thin to be hit with powerful airguns. What is likely the most-famous BB gun ever made — the Daisy Red Ryder — will be reissued in 2020 as a special-edition commemorative to celebrate its 80th anniversary.. It doesn't make sense to me, this policy, but then so don't many things. exists that out of the box never has problems. This is the long-throw lever, made in 1927 and after. And I pretty routinely blast steel spinners, paddles, splitters, etc. Back in 1914, Daisy was not able to fold the outer tube of any of their BB guns sufficiently airtight so the compression chamber was sealed. Happy to find this Adult sized Red Ryder. Real field targets are about twice as thick. I remember getting a Daisy BB Gun for Christmas when I was eight. Because it is not particularly practical to sell real weapons to children, toy makers instead produced cap guns and BB guns. The Red Ryder BB Gun is a BB gun made by Daisy Outdoor Products and introduced in 1938 that resembles the Winchester rifle of Western movies. Add to cart. Pyramyd Air did sell Hatsans at one time, but the guns went overboard. BB,Politics of sporter classes aside, the Edge looks interesting. I also expect expect items sold as "finished goods" to work right out of the box, period. This BB gun can provide a great deal of fun for everyone. The Red Ryder BB gun is produced by Daisy Outdoor Products, primarily known as Daisy. The black nickel went fast, as it was not a rugged finish. I live in Michigan, and would love to get nice 10 meter air pistol, but everything under 30 inches in overall length (except smooth bore BB guns) are treaded the same as powderburner pistols, needing registration to purchase. It seems that some things are missing and some things just don't add up. I'm surprised that people look at airguns, (or any packaged product), as "kits". They soft-soldered a metal patch to the underside of the gun. This Special Edition Daisy BB Gun features the traditional fancy Red Ryder logo engraving on the left side of handsome wood stock. This is a BB gun that is great for plinking, but not for accuracy shooting. Over the years, Daisy has manufactured nearly 100 different models of toy guns and nearly 400 different models of bb and pellet guns. It also has no reinforcement rib on it. Got this so I could shoot with them. This feature, coupled with the solder patch and the black nickel finish, is one more proof of a real first variation No. He specializes in restoration of vintage studio electronics including microphones, radios, tape players and record players. The Red Ryder is a "radio cowboy" from the golden-days of radio. Daisy Red Ryder Gallery/Shooting Kit Combo $ 32.88 $ 29.99. After they made changes to a design, they would continue to use the old parts until they ran out. Add to cart. I've now used the stripper three times, and it's still pulling a bit of stain out each time. Daisy Model F16 Slingshot KIT $ 12.98. 25 pump-action BB gun, is particularly active, and the questions are almost always the same. That is real handy if you are buying from a private party which does not require an FFL dealer. I see the answer to the calculation as objective – 11.43 foot/pounds, and your answer to my previous question as subjective – powerful. The 25's takedown feature does work very well, but most people don't use it much. One more application today, then I'll do a light 600 grit sanding in preparation for the maple stain, which should be in Wednesday. I think that's why Kevin recommended MEK (which I now have). In any case, thanks for the time you spend writing the blog and responding to comments. Jan,I always try to comment on every blog at least once plus click the box that sends me emails whenever someone else comments. This front sight is on a very early short-throw lever No. I should qualify that… I've shot a couple of FT matches using my stock .22 Disco with JSB 15.9's. The earliest guns did not have a reinforcing rib on the pump linkage, but in 1915 it was added. For instance, I'm using 7.5 – 8.5gr .177 pellets, my 953, Recon, and IZH-61 shoot less than 500fps – not powerful, right? This adds a bit of pressure to your session to simulate what you might experience in a sanctioned match. The 100 shots will probably be OK, but I hope it has "no shoot/pressure low" feature — the tank looks tiny:). It’s long been one of the best BB guns for the price. Notice that there are still five grooves on the pump handle. At least I can have anything over 30" shipped without the hassle and costs you have, so I guess I can't complain too much. You are among the handful of authorities on Daisy 25's considering your deep collection of these models and your airgun library that even contains the obscure publication by John Steed. Even a new $3,400.00 tricked out Steyr and new $2,500.00 FWB P700 (that had to be shipped across the ocean 4 times over a year to get it fixed). Derrick,My next move is to google Emma Peel, you've got me interested:). BB,For your field target answer can you give me an idea of what you mean by powerful? You have a legitimate right to complain. You will answer your own question about the power of your Talon SS. I've been playing wiht the idea of getting my CPL just to more easily buy an air pistol. (you know these fanatics) are still occasionally surprised by a "Frankenstein" that has been put together by the factory and these guys probably have over 50 years of collecting between them and hundreds of guns. Click here to see the Pyramyd Air restriction page, https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/feed/atom/, Benjamin Marauder Semi-Auto (SAM) PCP Air Rifle: Part 3, The AV-46M Single Stroke Pneumatic Match Air Pistol: Part 3, Benjamin Marauder Semi-Auto (SAM) PCP Air Rifle: Part 2, Umarex ReadyAir portable compressor: Part 1. ... and that includes everything from our BB guns to our safety programs to our customer support. Someone looked at a .223 varmint 700 Remington, bought it, and walked out the door. BB,I was interested in the fact that blog comments are still being added to a blog posting long after the blog is written. I should get a pretty good sense of how this particular stock will take stain by testing the inside of the stock. I found my Red Ryder many years ago in an antique store on the boardwalk in Myrtle Beach NC. Because it is not particularly practical to sell real weapons to children, toy makers instead produced cap guns and BB guns. When I went to pick it up I stopped at Cabelas on my way to my brothers. . Toys that still work are more valuable. Powerful or not is in the eye of the beholder. The first gun is sometimes called a 1913 variation, though I just told you that was a year before Daisy officially began production. Red Ryder BB Gun Our first gun is still a classic for all ages. Some younger kids had difficulty pumping the gun because of this, so in 1927, Daisy introduced what’s called the long-throw lever. But we have brought hundreds of new readers into the fold by inviting them to the modern blog page. Reinforcing ribI told you this was going to be detailed. ttomtucker, 10 years ago That's right, you have a nice Red Ryder BB gun. Wow, what a load of stuff. It is used to give the stripper some body and stick to the item. I'd love to see the air gun that can shoot a 14.3 gram pellet , I appreciate the lesson, however, it leaves me with a blond headed feeling. Someone has changed the target and started the competition again. The front sight on this 1913 version of the No. Something to keep in mind should I ever decided to move. Sale! The target itself is back ordered but I got the extra animals delivered. Tried using a near by FedX Kinko, but they said that I couldn't ship the gun from their store. I've seen a few stocks recently with a light finish accented by ebony stained checkering (Dianawerk forum). John Steed knew that, and I want you to keep it in mind, as well. I wondered, frankly, how Daisy could sell this gun for $149.00, given the fact that you can buy a Red Ryder at Pyramyd Air or Air Gun Depot for a small fraction of the price. I wonder where Daisy got the idea? However, my Talon SS on CO2 shoots 550-650 fps, would you consider this powerful? Oops, Pyramid does carry the Winchester 850×2, which is a rebranded Hatsan 95 SAS. I should have some new pics for you when you get back. at ~10yds. It sure was a lot of fun. When I began collecting 25s, not a lot was known about them, or at least not a lot was written about them. Perhaps someone added one after the original one broke. 's posts themselves (at https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/feed/atom/), but it took me a bit of digging to reverse-engineer the correct URL for following the comments with a reader, so maybe I should share. The state restrictions are nuts. I wonder if that would also hold true for harder alloy pellets like CP's, and/or at different velocities than what I'm used to. At 10m the Avanti will place every shot in the 10 (barring my inefficiencies), so it is not underpowered…but the other two are definitely hitting much harder.CowBoyStar Dad. Wow, Michigan laws are really a pain.Does anyone know what happens if an air gun does not pass police inspection? Believe me, this will be a lot more informative than counting the grooves on the pump handle, which is about all we knew to do 20 years ago. my two cents, (working for a manufacturer that certainly intends to sell stuff that works)…. This will give me a page to which I can refer people in the future. –Mike U. The Daisy Red Ryder features a manual safety, adjustable sights and holds enough BBs for a whole day of shooting. The Daisy Company began registering guns in 1952. I tried to return a rifle scope to PA and UPS wouldn't do it until I fibbed and said it was a telescope. There isn't a perfect airgun. I paid a couple dollars for it because none of us believed it was an antique. Surprisingly, Daisy started off … 25 is adjustable from side to side. At any rate, I'd sure love to have an unbiased opinion on it from someone trusted by all in the airgun community. Number of bids and bid amounts may be slightly out of date. I suggest trading up to a Daisy 880($44) or Crosman 2100($59) if you want a more powerful BB gun 0 2 It is model 40 number 111 serial number 880,555-1,062,855 it has wooden handle wooden stock metal rings bbs are loaded in front, pump action , fixed site and logo on left I view airguns as kits. We've been enjoying a winter wonderland at home since Friday, and it looks like more weather is on the way. I've used both UPS and FedX to ship air guns from here in Maryland. When Daisy learned how to fold metal and retain an airtight seal, the barrel patch was eliminated. I'm no expert but I've owned and shot alot of different airguns (springers, pumps and pcp's) and have some observations based on my limited experience. One of those so-simple-take-me-for-granted ideas that are so effective. I don't have a budget to test guns that PA doesn't stock, so you can see the problem. In my very limited experience, shooting pure lead pellets at steel targets like FT targets is Mostly Harmless, even at shorter ranges like 10yds. 11 product ratings - Daisy Red Ryder BB Gun Rifle Model 1938B Steel Air Gun Rogers AR WORKS PERFECTLY. The Red Ryder was revered for his skill with a Winchester rifle. The first variation was finished in fragile black nickel over silver nickel. While I don't expect to find a new rifle under the tree this year, I'll soon have one coming out of my shop. BB,I ordered the Gamo Squirrel Field Target and the extra animals. One of them, the one about the Daisy No. Vince,I have not tried that. This way I get all future comments on all the articles I've ever commented on. PS Chuck, I don't have much of a choice in .177 guns to shoot in the matches you've been talking about. For plinking, playing or even just for show, anyone can find a reason to love the Red Ryder BB gun. There seems to be a common perception that an airgun (or car, or boat or?) Quite a spread…yet all seem to be doing the job intended. However, I was at a satellite UPS store and not the central receiving/shipping office. Alot of good info here, but did you clear dating Daisy with Little Abner? 25. Believe it or not the word verify was "menta". I believe it says 177 or such on it. Chuck,I feel your pain about the Illinois gun laws. Red Ryder BB Gun History Page This Chronology of the Daisy Red Ryder was created to help identify the approximate year your Red Ryder was produced. Also now, if one has a CPL, you can complete the paperwork yourself without picking up a purchase permit. I have a daisy red Ryder gun and I’m not sure how to date it. Copyright © 1999-21 PyramydAir.com. Sorry for the misinformation in my above comment. By 1915, all these features had changed into something else. Step 2 Look to see if your gun is stamped with either location of "Plymouth" or "Rogers." There are alot of reasons I read this blog. As I have mentioned in the Red Ryder report, all BB guns of this era had significantly stronger mainsprings than they do today. UPS will not ship any gun part unless it comes from an FFL. I'm off to the winter wonderland for the holidays. Luck of the draw. The pump handle reaches out to within four inches of the muzzle, supposedly giving more leverage for cocking. Nonetheless, your article is filled with caveats. All wood stock and forearm, and the shot tube tip and trigger assembly is plastic.Made in China, unfortunately, but the gun has a nice finish and is fun to plink with. This auction features a Vintage LOCKING LEVER& assembly SCREW for DAISY Model 1938B RED RYDER BB Gun Made of plastic In good pre-owned condition I have other parts for DAISY Model 1938B RED RYDER BB Gun and will combine shipping Please view photos and ask any questions you may have prior to bidding Winning bidder to pay $4.99 shipping and handling within the continental U.S. lower 48 … Also, you have to bear in mind that Daisy never threw away anything. What? Never had a problem, but then again UPS never asks me (when I print shipping labels online) what's in the package. Thanks for the offer! We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. The pictures that I've seen so far focus on this bushing, so I'm not sure if the screws actually attach to the powerplant or just to themselves. I, living in IL, couldn't even receive an air rifle. See each listing for international shipping options and costs. Jeremy,I can understand your frustration. Jay,A couple of days ago you asked if anybody had a spare beech stock to practice on. Great tip on using Google Reader. Cross received his Bachelor of Arts in music theory and composition from Azusa Pacific University. I've destroyed the front of a corrugated cardboard box with my pistol at 295 fps (feet per second). Cardboard boxes shouldn't be much trouble. Once you complete the paperwork, you only need to mail in the State's copies.The safety inspections were always a joke anyway. I was kinda proud of figuring that out, but I bet a bunch of veterans will reply with a much more straightforward way of finding that feed, or otherwise following the comments. And in any event. 25. Purchase a recent toy-collecting book. There are also kits that can be purchased from the factory that require aftermarket parts that can significantly affect the initial investment but the end result is an airgun that can be compared to others costing much more than the total cost now in your airgun. Call a local hobby or antique store to see if it purchases or appraises toys. I see that technique used in so many places to day from kitchen utensils to toys. It will say something like no-111 model 40 or 1938B. This will be an interesting series. Adult Red Ryder kit with two Red Ryder BB guns ; Comes with 1 adult size & 1 youth size Red Ryder BB gun ; Perfect for use in a mentor / mentee situation ; Lever action with blade & ramp front sight & / adjustable rear sight; Shoots BBs 350 feet per second ; Adult Length/Weight: 36.75” / 2.95 lbs. With a solid wood stock and classic styling, this Daisy BB gun is ideal for beginners and hobbyists. Scott,In Illinois, any air gun in .177 and 700fps or less can be shipped to your door. Daisy Navy Blue Cap $ 14.99 $ 9.99. It included the sword that hung in Steed's office. After examining it more closely, I cleaned a patch of dirt off the area of the barrel. So let’s take a look at the Daisy Model 499B Champion BB Gun and see how it differs in build and performance from the Red Ryder Carbine I grew up with as a kid. Although, pyramyd doesn't carry these rifles, Hatsan is trumpeting what looks to be a fairly elegant shock absorbing system that could be one of those "why didn't I think of that!" There’s more, too, so stay tuned for Part 2. I'd like to request that you review the Hatsan Model 95 SAS rifle if possible. I'm 6' this bb gun is comfortable & fun to shoot. The patch runs from the beginning to the end of the compression chamber, including the spring tube that’s always behind the piston. The SAS appears to isolate the forearm screws from the powerplant by having the screws pass through a polymer 'tunnel' sort of like a bushing. Some, if you're lucky, but the same model airgun shipped to a different address can have problems. Cocking effort of 75 pounds with no more velocity than a Gamo Big Cat. John Steed actually discovered this feature, to the best of my knowledge. They want to know which version of the gun they have. Hooray!! My .22 Marauder shoots around 900fps – this I consider powerful. Check the barrel of the BB gun for any stamped markings. Daisy is best known for their inexpensive youth BB guns, modeled after lever-action rifles. Some younger kids had difficulty pumping the gun because of this, so in 1927, Daisy introduced what’s called the long-throw lever. Vince,I don't understand it either. Do they keep it. While the adjustable front sight is a good indicator of an early No. You may be leery of answering this so don't feel compelled. Hopefully, this in-depth review of the Daisy 1938 Red Ryder BB gun has helped you decide if you want to buy one for your kids. $31.00. The directions for the extra animals say not to use the targets closer than 25 yards because pellets could fragment and hit the shooter. ), but there's a link to a guitar site that has some good staining and finishing info. I can’t feel a difference, but I’m an adult and my guns are all well broken-in by now. This lever action carbine has taught marksmanship and gun safety to generations. CJr, I don't quite understand the UPS problem. The first gun has a couple characteristics that went away very soon after production began. This is a charge I don't think I'll get back from, say, PA, for example. It's the famous Red Ryder BB Gun with a compass in the stock and this thing which tells time (a sundial!). Some day I may test that. Search for any packaging. These are items that we stock in one of our 3 SGC Shooting Superstores and orders for these items will take 2-3 days to arrive. Hey, wait a minute it really kinda looks like my crosman 1377c air pistol….hey it is……. When it's sold as a "finished good" I expect it to be ready-to-use right out of the box, just like my car, my TV, my firearms, and anything else I buy. Most kits come with all the parts necessary from the factory they just need to be fitted/refitted correctly to work really well. 14 Questions View all stephanie bryant It seems to me that the pellets practically liquefy, or at least fragment into tiny pieces, when they impact hard surfaces; they seem to dissipate their energy very nicely on first impact. Do you have any first hand experience with these targets in that regard? I wonder if it would be best for comments made after the first week a blog is posted were redirected to a forum type format with a reference to the log they are addressing. My daisy 25 seems quite different then the ones I've seen here on the PA blog….. Hi, BB,Here's another question for part 2 on the No. Hot water radio and CBS radio and my guns are no longer considered `` toys. 1940s to.! 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