Thanks for the response. The fruit is usually rounded or slightly pear-shaped. The fruit fly is not a threat to the green hard skin of the sharwil. Give your avocado tree about 15 feet of space from other trees and plants. Also I was thinking of grafting Lamb Hass onto the Hass so I can extend that season. To speed up the avocado ripening process we recommend placing unripe avocados in a brown paper bag with an apple or banana for two to three days until they are ripe. Is there another tree of comparable size that complements the GEM in season that could happily share this space? Its important information. A homegrown Hass, picked at prime time around May or June in, Whats Reed like? Ill ask and post an update here as I learn. We have tried to plant Hass avocados about four times and despite every best effort with location change in the yard and switching up irrigation they all eventually turned black on the trunk, browned leaf tips, and given up, to our dismay. I have many thoughts on this topic, but dont have the experience so I am curious to get your thoughts on this! I already have lamb, fuerte, Mexicola, Pinkerton, Reed, wurtz, Sir prize. I wish you luck with the planting this is a perfect time for it. We are Sunset zone 17. I grew up against the same mountains, but out in Glendora, and Bacons do great there. (GEMs harvest season is basically spring into summer.) But, most of those carbs come from fiber. A hybrid cross of the Mexican and Guatemalan subspecies, 'Fuerte' was the industry-standard avocado in California before the Hass came on the scene. Sixty percent shade cloth over the trees can work as long as its only over the top (not wrapping the entire tree) and more than a few inches higher than the tree (not almost touching the top leaves). I love your articles!! Do you suggest shade clothes for all my trees (about 4 feet tall, 15 gal), or will it stunt growth too much? Linda I live on the edge here in the San Fernando Valley when it comes to frost (and heat) so in addition to my Reed I have planted Sir Prize, Stewart, and Mexicola as cooler weather backups. Ive never eaten Green Gold. This is finally my update. It doesnt matter which variety you plant in clayey soil. They must look at my yard and think its disgusting! Thanks In your climate, dangerous heat in spring and early summer just doesnt happen. One has more green on it than the other. Just a couple days ago, I visited the largest organic avocado orchard in California, and they recently planted a lot of Sharwil trees. The Hass has a lot on it and both the other trees have some as well. I have seen, in person, happy Hass and/or Reed trees in other parts of Southern California considered Sunset Zone 18, such as Rancho Cucamonga, Corona, and Redlands. This cultivar is responsible for almost 60 percent of commercial avocado acreage in Hawaii. I read your articles about pruning and also about hass being a great choice for a single tree. I realize it cant live forever there but at least I will get to try the fruit someday. But a couple are right on the cusp of that top tier. Thanks. But for others like Hass and Reed and Sharwil, to take the ones you mentioned, they just taste like awesome avocados. I know avocados love full sun but Im my area the sun really is strong. There are a lot of factors that go into the long term performance of a tree, but all other things being equal (health of tree, scion variety, rootstock, care), I also see no theoretical reason that a younger tree would somehow jump ahead of an older tree. This is one of the reasons that Hass went from obscurity in 1945 to over 95 percent of the commercial avocado production in California today. Full sun For commercial purposes the fruits are picked while unripe and ripened after harvesting. Hass and Reed as numbers one and two are solid for me. Ive only eaten them once though, a handful of years ago up in Carpinteria. I am looking for a variety that would : The owners are nice and said I welcomed to the tree. The tree looks healthy and fruitful: auspicious for your plantings. Very happy with my Zutano. I dont know the nursery it is originally from. The equipment you need to move between rows to do your spraying will have to be accommodated. I can go into the reasons for this if youre interested. It becomes hydrophobic whereas the mulch never does.) A lesser-known variety but one still popping up in supermarkets is the mighty Florida avocado, also sometimes called the Dominican avocado. Of course, they dont understand the function of that leaf litter. But I still hesitate about the rootstock variety. And then theres your commitment to pruning. CA avocados like Lamb Hass don't do well in FL and vice versa. I dont think it is possible to attach files to the commentaries ongregalder.com, so I will send you pictures by email. When you put a thick layer of tree trimmings down, do you turn them to allow air to circulate? Ive been told that landfills in other counties offer similar products. Required fields are marked *. If you want to maintain that upright growth, then its best to limit the fruitset or pinch the tips of branches as they grow so that they fork more and are better able to hold a load of fruit. Thank you so much. I read that Duke 7 (American) and Dusa (South African) are to this day the best rootstocks. I would still choose Hass as my single tree in Van Nuys, and Reed should do well there too. They grow far better in the mild temperatures near the beach than they do in my yard which is twenty miles from the ocean. Sharwil, Stewart, Sir Prize, Hass and Holiday dont seem to do as well here in comparison. Variety makes a difference. But Im game to attack it with a fun and practical twist: Im imagining that I just moved into a new house with a blank yard . Big and green are the two fatal qualities that prevent Reeds acceptance as a commercial variety in todays small and black Hass world. Bacon grows somewhat vertically, but it is likely to grow faster than the GEM. I dont have extensive room for so many trees through which is why I want to graft (actually its that my wife will kill me if I try to plant more than 3 avocado trees). The Mexicola and Lamb both look like they might be based on the pictures I have seen. Thanks Greg. Avocado - GEM - 3 - 4 feet tall Exotic Fruit Trees Limit 5 per customer. 2 years old Fuerte on unknown seedling I enjoy hearing your feedback on Holiday. Step 4. They will always stay true to who they are (unlike Hass, who with one whiff of heat or pressure shapeshift quicker than a Harry Potter character). Best regards, But the distinctive smooth texture and nutty yellow flesh of a perfect Fuerte is so appealing to me that I dont even want to adulterate it as guacamole. My trees are young now, but Im a few years I will ask for your location and send you a barrel of all my varieties. The worst infestations Ive seen have been on highly fertilized trees. Is there a simpler way. This way youll likely have some years with fruit on all but some years where the tender ones get some damage. I have not been able to get a clear answer as to why this is not grown in South Florida. Youve got a great combination of avocado trees there. Maybe I should dig a 5th hole. The challenge Ive heard others in your area having is with occasional cold snaps in winter (taken care of by your greenhouse) and such cool spring weather that B types dont set much fruit. These are the first trees I have had success with and just dont want to mess things up. The information I am finding on Reed says that it is best grown in Zones 10-11. Hass is the most widely planted variety in the world for good reason. My head was spinning, trying to develop the perfect avocado plan for my hillside. At first, I had a Hass in mind, but found out about the GEM and it sounded more like what I was looking for, especially with the columnar growing pattern. Ive visited avocado trees only as far north as the Bay Area. And if the tree is small, you might actually need to deliberately remove some of the fruitlets for the trees own long-term health. Based on other research, Id been drawn to trying a GEM avocado tree here in NoCal on the coast (near Ft. Bragg and Mendocino). "The Hass make up about 80 per cent and the Shepards about 15 per cent, and the . Daily 11 Avocado. I hate to hear how many avocado trees havent thrived for you, but its great that you havent given up. The trees are doing spectacularly, especially the Nabal with 18 almost baseball size avocados on it. I planted a Hass and a Fuerte in a fairly small backyard in the Pt Loma/Sunset cliffs area. As you get closer to the ocean and farther north, the Reed season gets later and longer because of the cooler temps. Kona Sharwil avocado was introduced in Australia and is now a major commercial variety in Hawaii. Hard to say. Also, this winter had me buying avocado from Mexico, which is either small and cheaper, or XL and pricey. Thank again for your help. The Nabal is really dropping a lot of yellowing leaves daily and making me nervous about over or under watering or something else I might be causing. The elderly couples yard suddenly became an internet sensation and these people kept getting surprise visitors in their front yard until they asked people to take videos of their tree off of YouTube and started turning visitors away. By black sand I meant sandy loom. 1) be reliable cropper, a variety that gives high yields, even as a solo-tree (we dont have other avocados in our neighourhood, and my two trees, not flowering at the same time, would be considered as solo-trees) Both varieties are a rich source of monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats, also known as "healthy fats," which means it's not a bad idea to eat an avocado every day. Also I love Fuertes, but only if you have a big yard. Also no information whether it is a clonal rootstock or a seedling one (for avocado trees). (If youre wondering where to buy one of these avocado varieties or any other variety of avocado tree see my post, Where to buy an avocado tree.). So even though I had anticipated buying for a few months, it seems that the winter avocado is more expensive, historically. Im jealous. I hope I can answer all of your questions on this topic there. 1 year old Bacon on Zutano seedling This weekend, Im going to be using your tips for planting an avocado so I can put mine in the ground. This is important information indeed. With a single Hass tree you can have good avocados at hand for at least seven months out of every year. Its one that I have thought a lot about, read a lot about, still wrestle with, but have some good experience to share. The Hass is a tough act to follow, but Backyard. Ive never tasted one but wondering how it compares to Reed and Hass in your opinion. The big difference: these avocados have significantly less fat. 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Congratulations on your house in Covina. But there are a lot of B types whose fruit I love so Im starting to keep my B types smaller or graft them into A types and eliminate their whole trees. I have been growing avos for 40 years. Your climate in Temecula is similar to mine in Ramona: a bit hot in summer; a bit cold in winter . Im really benefiting from your observations. Seeing as you can go buy a Hass avocado in your local supermarket any day of the year, maybe you might consider a different variety that you can't otherwise find. June of 2018 In my garden, I have only one Reed. An American friend of mine bought me a Sir Prize tree, but we learnt that the shipping to France was way too expensive (8 times more expensive than the plant itself), and we also had no garanties that the plant would pass the customs. What I would plant after these is less solid though. I found one at a small nursery in south county and planted it in between the 2 existing trees. Taste Ive read is great. Ive been looking for a long time where could I purchase sharwil avocados. I would call them and see about buying trees from them if you have trouble locating trees elsewhere. It doesnt make great guacamole, but its excellent on sandwiches and in smoothies. Greg, this is a great thread, thank you. In my climate (Ramona), we can get heat waves of 100 degrees in May or June while fruitlets are still small and vulnerable. It seems that Reed has the advantage in terms of fruit production. The Hass Avocado is large and symmetrical in shape with black skin when ripe: Fruit Ripens: February to October. I know thats not down the street, but . This might be different for you though; it probably depends on your particular microclimate. Should be interesting to see how it works out. I hope you didnt get snow where you are, because a few weeks ago when I was there, it was COLD and rainy. It could be something I acquired from eating Fuertes as a kid, I dont know. that is why I decided to find out by growing two trees and to report on them. Carlsbad is an awesome place to grow avocados. As Adrian alluded to above, Hass and Reed are A types while Fuerte is a B type, which makes cross-pollination all the more likely, enhancing fruit set. Great article, Im planting a reed, hass and fuerte. ), and are interested in dwarf avocados outside that have a chance of bearing here. If you want it to spread very horizontally, Id plant a Fuerte. Avocado oils are considered heart-healthy and good for your skin. The Pinkerton tree itself gets a bit sunburned and tattered looking but it holds onto its fruit very well, which Id say is what we most care about. Note that Im really tentative about saying this. This autumn, I decided to order more avocado trees from Brokaw. Home Depot in Whittier has mainly had Zutanos, Bacons and Hass while Lowes hadnt had anything. About 8 miles inland in Southern Sonoma County. Im in Van Nuys, which is Sunset Zone 18. Have you received your trees? 100% Hawaiian Sharwil Avocados. Ive never had a tree-matured Reed. By 1991, Sharwil was finally cleared for export and shipments were. When they set a lot like your trees have, they must shed some or else branches will break, get sunburned, even die back from the stress of growing too much fruit. Results and timelines of grafted avocados. Im guessing it was the chlorine that did the damage. I recently bought a Hass and Reed on salt tolerant root stock. (rpondu) Blogue Fruits et Lgumes. I wish I knew your yard in particular because there are always various microclimates within Sunset Zones and city limits, but unless youve got an unusually low and cold spot then these varieties should do fine. Actually, I have tasted someone elses Kahaluu fruit that was grown in California so I can use that for reference in comparing to the others. To mitigate the clay soil, the planting area is raised, and the adjacent rock wall is free standing to allow drainage. Btw, from my experience and reading on Aussie forums Sharwil is very heat sensitive so unless it is 80 all year around it is not worth growing. (Note: I took this photo in June, at the tail end of the Fuerte season, at the height of the Hass season, and at the very beginning of the Reed season.). Found some 5gals at Atkins in Fallbrook. fireduck. Eventually we could put up a larger greenhouse, but Im hoping that we can proceed without having to do that. Thanks! Im torn though We have a small space with good sunlight and drainage in our yard that is probably 12 x 12 for this tree. There is no bitterness or bacony note. Both can crop well as solo trees, and they have different harvest seasons, and they both are extremely high-quality in terms of eating. Is that too far away? Our southernmost facing front yard has a decent slope, so planning to plant there. (Compare that to many peaches, which cant hold their mature fruit for more than a couple weeks!). I like that place, he even recommended going down to Maddocks a bit further if he didnt have what I wanted. I also checked on a huge old Nabal in OB that I used to eat from, and I was pleased to find that the tree is now doing better than last year. The Sharwil avocados have a 15-26 percent oil content and are very popular in Hawaii. I cant imagine anyone being happy with that situation even if were just a typical commercially variety much less a one of a kind variety without first getting some type of permission. Should complement the GEM season. Griswold in a 1945 article titled, The Hass Avocado. This was written when the green Fuerte was king of a young California avocado industry. Temecula gardener here. First propagated in 1911 in a California nursery, it got its name - Spanish for "strong" - after a particularly hard frost hit the area in 1913. 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