I am the professional here selling my company as one to come to. This would be non-captive. Basically for my time only I get to get licensed and trained in an area I like a lot seems like a good investment for that benefit to me. Have to wait up to 6 months to get money. Ask your RVP about it. Most Insurance companies have a histroy of lying stealing and conning their clients. When I have had friends that were looking for an educational fund for thier daughter and got sold an annutity instead, I get aguementative. YUGO vs. a BMW. How To Find The Cheapest Travel Insurance, Types of Life Insurance Sold by Primerica, convert a term life to a permanent life insurance policy. I hope you are since you have no backing, no deep pockets. However I dont have plans on leaving because I know where I stand with my present employer and because there are perks that my present company give me that the other wouldnt. I was apporoced by an agent and he has me interested in joining. Whats the difference between being a sales person and an advisor? What option is there to give a client with one term product which is Here is another fact, over 50% of the insurance companies in business when Primerica began have closed shop. And to finish James boy. Prove it. ), I have taken even more advance courses and they still do not talk about these items. Sales person cares really about themselves. We are in the beginning wave of the baby boomers and theres going to be a 15 or 20 year period to attack that boom. Any competent adviser says to stay away from Cancer policies since they are so narrow that they are not worth the policy. Tom there are reasons why some policies have a lower cost. . They get into trouble. If you say differently, you are not being truthful. Coverage: $400,000. Getting back to the Conflict of interest. But can you? WebSince the sequence of the amino acids is contingent on the genetic code, the shape of the protein is encoded in the DNA. Im really sitting on the fence at this point. Since you only sold Life insurance I can see why you might think that having a product that does cost more, but gives more might be a hard thing to sell. I was also contacted by an old boss of mine from years ago with the same approach I wanted to talk to you about something and never specified. And you will not be able to retire ever. Its the products or services that I do not like. It has gone from one license, to 5 licenses or products. You are not either comprehending or you are ignoring it. He is either doing this for extra money for trips and vacations. I found out many people are losing money in their investment programs and it may take years to recover. You say you can do everything that Primerica can do. Interesting article! 2. Primerica is one of its biggest ones. I guess being captive has it benefits. The market that Primerica serves. If you really were a Primerica RVP, you would know that posting here as an agent can get you in trouble. It is a level playing feild. It is a business owner. WebThe NCAA has three division levels: Division I, Division II, and Division III. You do not know what you are talking about. But for everyone else that you help to train, and usually their legs too, you get to keep a leg. So who do you go to? I can chose whomever I want to represent, that will meet my clients needs. No, it only means that we are different. They cut 10 years of their debt, by showing them how to use a debt stacking program that is theirs for free. I am curious, who is being sold? Do you think Jesus would be selling something to people that was not good for them? Companies needing to be bailed out. You know now you have to join Primerica. If you give people an outstanding product, excellent customer service, and the product that meets their needs not by you own omission wanting to win, myself as a contractor I would not want to be captive I would want to sell Lennox, Trane, Bryant, Rheem, Carrier, American Standard, etc. Michael you just ignore it. I can offer canser, critical care, LTD, accident, annuities, and more. Pretty smart of you, to bad you got found out. Matter of fact they suggest it more than most financial adviser that sell cash value. So what! My question is not the cheapest but who gives you the most value and obviously price does go into that. As an independent contractor why is it to your benefit to have to qualifications for ownership? Besides it is tax deductable, dollar for dollar. They are told bring over your sales list. The Saying comes to Mine. Someone will always beat your price. I can see only a win for the agent. [CDATA[ google_ad_client = "pub-0751974658121276";/* CPF 250x250 in content serp */google_ad_slot = "2853593088";google_ad_width = 250;google_ad_height = 250; // ]]> The reason they can hire anyone is because they have a computer program that does the advising for them. How many of them are lies, deceptive or just plain wrong? Which brings up another question. And we dont have brochures or ads laying everywhere. What I have yet to see from him, and others defending Priemrica is FACTS, FIGURES and NUMbERS! I have to give up my service I have been getting. SO he can make money. They blew up in my Printer and cost me a repair and a replacement. Now cable is not as important as your families life if you should die prematurely. SInce you have said your products are less, then it has to be the first thing. Please define right way? I am curious, why are you bringing in Citi. Thanks for contributing so much info about it it sounds like it is working well for you and you brought up a few things I didnt know. I asked him to repeat what he said about Primerica. What did you sales force make you? The last one is a joke since there is no accountability to who does the test. -. You seem to know all about insurance, when was the last time you checked into how many policies go 30 years? You are forced to do this because PFS would have a fit and send their lawyers on you because of the non-compete clause you signed. Now let me show you how a Proud Primerica RVP would answer your ignorant comments. This is something that most companies would love. This is one of the reasons why they are no value term. Billionaire. A person can market to a few people a year or month or whatever and take that income and supplement a retirement plan or to use with some other bills or whatever. Dont put words in my mouth or twist my story. First, It is no longer called CitiGroup, it is just Citi. Now he is struggling because he is living off of 60% of what he was making and his wife had to quit working to take care of him. Or cant get a loan. Yes, but to cover every possible loss is absurd. These activities include bathing, toileting, dressing, moving and transferring, etc. An annuity is the best way to make money off your client, the highest fees. Again XRL, I do hope you pay more attention to what your clients say, and send you. Now as I know your going to go into the conversion feature. ANd most are doing now, we are in a recession and unemployment is so high. . First, Hitler was a great leader. Hire lots of people, get them to call all of their warm market and offer them cell phone discount and discounted service plans. Now I have seen the numbers for your areas, did you know that all the RVPs have grown, and they have created 50 new RVPS in the last 3 years. DO you knwo what the Competent advisers say to do? Just my opinion. Ive made some money; far more than what ive put in Havent quite covered the time ive put in but im going to do 3 life sales in a couple of days so in addition to a couple of other things in the works that will probable get me close to compensating my time. They also charge interest on the money. If you were given the opp to check out PFS, give it a fair overview and dont be swayed in the wind just cuz a pile of people of people are saying its a scam. Since it has not been decided yet, it all depends. I dont know Michael, but I know the difference between being captive and independent. You are right #2 its usually 8% to borrow but it not your money. Do you need to sell ice to an Eskimo? And the money they have in the life insurance, will either have to borrow to get, or cash out the policy. I ahve given referrals to my agent. So you are sure they are not holding anything back. Again I challenge him: He said that Primerica only gives you one license and it cost $199. You must have the flexibility to change and flexible products to meet your clients needs. P.S. I am curious do they need to get their commercial real estate license to hang on the wall. As soon as they use them up they are gone. So Tom are you saying people dont have the ability to make decisions on their own? I am still in the licensing phase of the employment process. Well my thinking is outside of Primerica so I know other carriers will offer coverage. So why do you need income protection when you do not need it. If you continue to focus on price, go get your food at 99 cent stores. Its about sales. Primericas only has guaranteed for 10, 15 and 20-year. 50 terminal illness benefit ($250,000 max) Until then, the market is wide open. Even though that person accepted the service themselves, I as part of it. I have been working for Primerica part time for the past couple of months and I am very happy. Which agent would you choose, PFS or an independent that can offer more options, more products and cheaper policies? They got into so much trouble. They do not need this crap.. Money can only be earned from a sell of a product or service. Well most people get a check for something before that. Well the same way the found me, not once but several times. I guess you must be checking out an office that is not doing it right. I have learned a couple of things. You mean getting all the licenses? It is not a requirement to make a high income. Since you do not know about this let me help you There is a difference between LTD from an employer and an individual policy. Please explain that to me. So Who do I believe a Salesperson who is only selling insurance, or a several people, that I paid money to verify I am on the right path. You can fit their needs by reviewing what is important to your clients, remember the asking the client questions, taking notes and really listening what is important to them and their families? I guess you must be mistaken like about the amount it takes to join and what it covers. If you are using History, why not look at the history. If they currently do not have a huge team or any real ties to PFS, they could step outside PFS still recruit a team and just test the independent waters. Locations But a salary cost the company money. Following termination of this Agreement, this provision will be limited to prohibiting your soliciting, directly or indirectly, Primerica Life insurance purchasers only when all four of the following additional criteria are met: 90 are dependent or still working. Ok but in learning how to do the business, And they give up 5 to 6 sales, they get 25 to 60 warm referrals, and learn how to get them each time. It was a way to take more money from the potential clients. This is similar to getting calls or letters about you cable. Any competent adviser says to stay away from Cancer policies since they are so narrow that they are not worth the policy. Then I came to you and said, hey come work for me and market these products. James and Michael Cant so they attack me. It seems you want me to educate you. But then again you are here to see if you can bash me into submission. Then theres the tried and true, once upon a time You might as well have chosen one of those names. We waited for 6 months to 18 months to get the money. Now as for the Employees part, they never said that in any of the many times I get calls. car they just want to get rid of. so what? Again, I am not an agent. . Do you know the meaning of the words, you use? If I want to do well I am responsible for my own actions. The comissions are low compared to the company that I have now. Or have you not seen many hard working families lose their homes the last couple of years because reps have been selling so-called good quotes. (Harassing and misleading letters is the rotten part.). How many (average) americans have $25k to invest or can afford to pay you/reputable companies 1500.00-2,500.00 or more for your services. How you feel about PFS is not really relevant when someone asks you if you think that they should or shouldnt do the business. We are still waiting for some insuarnace companies to pay us 2 years ago. The only one who wins is them. Primericas Term life coverage is actually the lowest premium out!! I have no quotas to meet. I mean you keep going off subjexct like this, may be people will see that you are just trying to make your self look important. And if you act this way infront of the client it would not surprise me you fail. Not just a Life insurance sales person saying he is a financial adviser. Now that is scary.). Again you said your are on a mission and the only mission I see is you taking money from your client, for things he does not need from you, that will lower his money for retirement. But then again nothing is surprising me about you. Bill, I am not a chick. What about software? And an OPPORTUNITY to for others to make money on a part time basis.. Do you think that if you are constantly asked to change your plan, that it is not worth something? I too, am not a rah-rah person. Tom, here is where you and I differ. If James is right, why are we having the melt down in the financial arena? The insurance companies estate. Her commission is $15,600. I have written a related answer on Quora before at this link (and as mentioned at that article, I warn you again that my exposure to Primerica is n A Hired Gun? If you are 25 and it took you 15 years to make $100,000 ( which is long I must say), you are still ahead of 98% of the population. And since it will only work for those with estates more than over 1 million of dollars per heir, it is not for the most people. I am curious how do you sleep at night knowing that your clients are being harassed by the companies you sell for? Of course some people are beyond help or dont need your help. All he has is his word. You seem to be taking this personal. Truthfully, Im attracted by the earning potential, given the enormous debt my family is in and limited earning opportunities I have outside my job as a letter carrier. Please not that I said 2 percent, and that plus the 98 makes 100%. Most brokers do this so they do not lose the clients they have. Let me explain. But Michael knows he can throw numbers out all he wants but the trick is not to lock himself down, because he has no control over the underwriting, nor the insurance company. And since you are wondering why do I stay with Primerica, and defend them. They said that to them. But I have a question, why in the world would Citi sell the only sales force that cost them nothing, except commissions. Wouldnt be a shame that the insurance policy you buy from Michael because it is cheaper, is not enforce when you need it? Are we displaying such information in detail on our public websites? e This is simply not true, though! Mutual funds is the way. Tom: One thing you seem to fail to see or understand is people can go to a source to verify what is said. Being non-captive means to me, that I am not forced to sell one product, one service, or having one mindset. I am only more dedicated to making PFS work for me than you were. I am very interested in the opportunities that primerica offers but I am very confused as to what to do right at this moment. If I worked for PFS and walked away from you whom would you call, PFS and complain? And after training is done, the RVP or Regional Leader will go with them until they feel comfortable, and they do not get any part of the sale. Look up shadow account. Second, why is captive so bad. Ask your PFS agent if Art williams or Sandy Weill only had term policies. commissions to your account. The only winner in cash value is the Company and the agent selling the garbage. Primerica is (was) the same for you as it is for Doug Hartman. Something people are glossing over is the fact that Citigroup has PFS on the market. Do you feel like your Products are not as competitive as they should be? It is just a reminder about greed. he comes to me when ever I want him to. Primerica offices are all run independently. These idiots act like we have not done the research on the company, know the controversial nature of the business model, and want to try it out anyway. The only draw back is that you get paid less. As for being a Christian blog, many atrocities have been done in his name. You need to handle problems. I will put Tom #1 of the who the world hates most lying saleman list, just above the preowned (used) car sales person. For the Most case Primerica will not fire you. So does that mean the bottom of the list is a rip-off? No, thats just their price for your class and group that you fit in. Riders allow you to customize a policy with extra coverage or features. Not everyone is as enlightened as you are, and most people need help. The only thing is that Primerica is offering them a way to leverage their time. -. Thank God her plot is paid for at least. No one helping you, because we all know that no one does anything for free. And what woudl someone do if for 7 years, the bank kept his monthly deposits he was saving for his kids college? How many of these consumers would buy a bed, but never get to sleep on it? The Ritz and the Super 8 are both Hotels, but I rather stay at the Ritz. Life is never easy. You buy there term for 10 to 35 years. The RVP has an office. Just refer people to your RVP and do your nursing thing and since you will be licensed you can be compensated, but of course follow your individual states laws. The middle class in North America is dying under debt, waist full whole life insurance and poor/no savings for retirement. I guess not you are just parroting what you learn from your trainer. But I keep going back to the Value gap. That is why I wrote this post I was and am happy to see all of the comments from both sides of the Primerica spectrum, so hopefully people can get a better understanding of what Primerica does and doesnt do. Which one is it? to address some of the negatives that are repeated thousands of times on the net. There have been only 2 times that I went back to a client and advised then that a portion of their solution didnt make sense to switch from their currect programs and it was left alone NOT SWITCHED ANYWAY TO MAKE A PROFIT. If you start a business that is not? If you are getting less than inflation, you will end up still working for your entire life. Also why is it ok for Primerica to consider saving people money on their Home/Auto, but not on Life. They have proven they cant be trusted, or are willing to twist anything to their point of view.. Well let me go through the list of problems here. Does the agent refer the client to another agent? What do Primeica agents do in a situation when Primerica Life wont offer coverage? If you arent interested in the products, services or the opportunity its no skin off of you or your former boss teeth, at least you have the information, what you choose do with it is up to you. He know he is wrong but will hide behind what ever he wants to. So they said he was going out of business. . As for LTD, policies outside work cost considerable more and do not cover as much. Again you must know your products and explain them to your clients. They are all transportation. For the life of me I cant remember how that works.. Yes people get divorced and separated, the biggest reason is money. Well what if you ran into a market for Health insurance and wanted to offer that, well you wouldnt be able to. Most brokers do this so they do not lose the clients they have. Let me explain. Taking out a Cash Value loan that does not get paid back by either choice or death of primary covered person reduces the life insurance proceeds in an amount equal to the cash value loan balance. *****1. So what you MUST rely on is our ratings with the entities that regulate us: ambest, NASD, SEC, etc. Crusades were not found CHEAPLY! As for the web sites I post, its because I dont wish anyone to take my word for anything. Not all insurance products and services are available in all states. Shortly after my introduction to the company my wife decided to join. Call me for a quote. RECRUITING JUSTIFICATION: well lets see.. get the blind teaching the blind and say who am i to judge who will make it or not and yes then you can put your head on the pillow at night.. well, thats if you have no real judgement and are more motivated by what, oh ya, the dream of money and success; ah so hypicritical. By the way, who do you save your money for, your family or the institution you are placing it with. For you, Oh my gosh, hes making money off this person and that one! type of people out there (love the internet).take a really good unbias look at how ALL FINANCIAL SERVICES companies work. Why dont you and the others, tell us why you really dont like us, Primericans. If I had an agent that acted like you, I would drop you in a second. Tom if I was talking to you talked to me this way in person I would turn around and walk out. Genworth Life and Annuity Insurance Company I am simply searching for the truth! But that is why it is hypothetical. -. Ask them who owns the downline and what does it take for an agent to have ownership? So if you sell a CHEAP product, its exactly that, a CHEAP product. Yes I have a company worth billions if I sell it. PFSI is a member of FINRA and SIPC. And then you had to fight for it. . Does not sell cash value. Are not able to understand simple English. It definitely is something that can eventually become quite lucrative by building passive income. Why do you need life insurance, or what it is really should be called income protection, at that age (70). But when a prospect is just waisting the recruiters time in any field mentioned above. Accidental and Cancer are both worthless since they do not pay out often. lol) And as for the keep getting people licensed and blah blah. I did not have anyone show me and remember I am an a/c repairman. Michael/Thomas may say that price really matters. Life, Auto Home, Mortgage, Investments, PrePaid Legal. You have the product you have. When you can prove it, lets discuss it. -. Other companies are in direct competitition for new green agents. If its a husband and wife situation where one can get coverage and the other cant can you guess what is going to happen? STAY AWAY FROM MESSAGE BOARDS. Because its terrible to try to sell your food to your friends and family. invest the difference in the same mutual fund you would have picked except they Ask Any one about insurance, they say Buy Term and invest the difference. Next week SHE is closing $600,000 in variable annuities and shell earn over $18,000! What does PFS offer when it comes to the TIR or ADB compaired to the other companies? I only said that it works. Well what you profess cost more but offer some features free. Im sure you understand how the cash value of a policy is used within a policy and who owns it. Number 3: I, too am open-mindedthrough and through. 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