How do we help.". Is this confirmed? How many individuals were involved in the initial search? Kline is in jail awaiting trial on 30 charges related to child pornography, but he has not been charged in the Delphi murders. I will say that the one thing that is certainly proven about Mr. X is that he is suspicious. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. The motive is likely to be a lot sicker than that. Were not. Kline denied involvement in the girls' deaths, calling the timing of his correspondence with Libby a "weird a** coincidence.". I don't know. A rose will bloom, it then will fade. Theres a puppy sticking out of the bears collar. Theres one reason I think we can all think of, best left unmentioned, and another, that they were out in the nowhere, possibly hunting but far away from the crime scene. One of the only early clues to their killing was a video Libby took on her phone, capturing a man approaching them, who then could be heard telling the girls to go "down the hill. From the very beginning, I felt that the perp(s) is/are local, and that they knew the girls through the friends and family circles. Just forget it. Regardless of whether or not members of the search party were told not to report what they saw at the crime scene, if it was as bizarre as it sounds, I dont see how anyone could keep it to themselves. Because this is a pending investigation, we do not have any details to share at this time., FBI Special Agent in Charge Herbert J. Stapleton. I am looking on thoughts on this guy as well. In two August court filings, Kline's attorney said that his client was "exploring other legal options" about his child porn charges and negotiating with prosecutors. It's a development loved ones of Libby German and Abby Williams have long prayed for: charges filed in connection to the Delphi murder investigation. Indiana State Police plan a Monday morning news conference to update the investigation of the Delphi murders and who might have killed Libby German and . Contact her at rfradette@indystar.com or follow her on Twitter at @Rachel_Fradette. Not much of Allen and his arrest is known as most of the case-related documents are under seal. Theyre kept their main suspect pretty secret until Leaker showed up. And that he also told us that they suspect Mr. X in Evansdale too, right? Then again if it was recent, makes me wonder if the guilt of covering up for Mr. X may have been eating him up inside? We cannot publicly convict someone based on a single document which was not released by investigators. They force his wife to abandon their house.. He has not been charged or accused of any wrongdoing in the deaths of Abby and Libby. This is an article with a description of the search - and pictures taken during the search (the day murder victims Abby and Libby were found). Rozzi began his arguments by asserting that the documents should be unsealed. He was very well-liked in town. I certainly wasnt there so I cant vouch one way or another. Wouldnt LE and Fire officials have kept a list of folks who participated in the search? I live on a fixed income which is barely above the poverty level. In . At this point, this rumor seems like its proven at least to my satisfaction. Could you imagine, all the accomplices connected? We now have two separate SPMs both independently reporting that they saw dolls hanging from trees at the crime scene. I'm assuming LE must "ask them" or straight out tell them to keep such information strictly to themselves for the sake of the on-going investigation. However, they only cut pigs throats that way in kosher slaughterhouses. Police have quizzed Kegan Kline over his correspondences with Libby German, a transcript leaked by Murder Sheet earlier this year revealed. It was unclear Monday whether Allen has an attorney. The officer seeks clearance and lets the male through the cordon. Any theories? Because he seems to be quite the liar to me," she charged. But there it is, sitting right there, staring us in our faces. Ive heard that when a killer feels something for his victim, hes more likely to care for the body, for example, wrap it in a blanket to protect it from the elements, etc. The bad guy knew they would be at the bridge that day bc they told someone or the bad guy overheard conversation by way of being close to the family, being nearby as drop off and pick up plans were made. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Its just conjecture," he said in rebuttal to McLeland's argument. "That is accurate," Becky Patty said. Instead he was with the team that found the bodies. Recently in the People Magazine Investigates episode on Delphi, Carter says People need to let us handle this case, let what we saw that day eat away at us like it does. They saw something horrendous that day. DELPHI, Ind. He certainly didnt sound suicidal in his retirement announcement from Monticello in Nov 2019. Libby's grandfather did not want the media to move on from this day. Because probably because they DNA tested me they obviously have DNA on that body, 'cause why else would they DNA test me. Lot of men his age talk like that about women. The Peru home he shared with his father, Tony Kline, was raided 12 days after Libby and Abby were found dead. "For now, to me, it's about protecting the integrity of this case.". And you wont by enriching someone who is already wealthy like Hughes. They sell them on Valentines Day. Problem is that CSI cop NM was the one providing the alibi for Mr. X, so that theory doesnt work. Regarding Mr X, wouldnt the girls have known him if he were friends with Libertys grandparents? ", Delphi killings:4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. Indiana State Police made headway on Friday in the 2017 cold case commonly referred to as the Delphi Murders. See how people are reading too much into this guy? Those four words have been used by family and community members to keep attention on the case as it remained unsolved. A special needs woman and a toddler? Allen shuffled his way to the defense table wearing a yellow jumpsuit, a black ballistic vest and his hands awkwardly chained to his chest left over right. Or a twisted kind of guilt or compassion for the girls? To say that all of the details intertwined with so many different people and relationships is complex would be an understatement. Hi Robert. His FB artwork containing two dripping roses and a skull, along with swirls of blonde hair. And most of what we have reported is based on solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. Libby was 14 when she was murdered in 2017. His wife was with BP when the call came to Becky that the girls had been found. Richard Allens point is it will not., Who is Delphi suspect Richard Allen?Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in'. He actually thinks women are going for bad men and leaving nice guys and good men like him alone. This is from NMs obit: he was a Crime Scene Technician. ", Jury inspect eerie Murdaugh murder scene where mom & son were executed, US Navy faces being totally outgunned by China in just seven years, says expert, Dances with Wolves actor pleads not guilty in 'sex cult' case, TikTok star, 28, is charged with child abuse after 'attack on boyfriend', 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Travis Trexler was arrested on DUI charges, Kegan Kline was contacting Libby German through a catfish social media account the night before she was murdered, Libby (left) was murdered alongside her best-friend Abigail Williams (right) in Feb. 2017, Travis Trexler is a cousin of Kegan Kline's, Police ended a six-week search of the Washab River on Wednesday, The culprit behind the murders has never been identified, Precisely how the two girls were killed has never been revealed by police. Indiana State Police An attorney for Kline declined to comment on the announcement. The investigation is ongoing and open, various authorities reiterated during the news conference. They are both saying the same thing independently, too, and we have no evidence that they talked to each other. And its likely that BG did work there, as youve pointed out, since he killed Libby the same way pigs are slaughtered. Were there (are there) people from the search party talking on some obscure boards we know nothing of? Yeah thats not our information. Allen, 50, was charged on two counts of. Precisely how they were killed has never been revealed by police. A large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene, the agent writes. (WLS) -- There is a new push for information four years after police found teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams dead, in Delphi, Indiana. DELPHI, Ind. On February 13, 2017, Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Ab "If he is leading us on another wild goose chase, then that would be gut-wrenching.". A man being eyed in the unsolved 2017 murders of two teens in Delphi, Indiana, has an "evil streak" and is "absolutely capable" of committing that type of crime, his brother said. And you guys have not given up on us. Support the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! I literally have no clue how that girl died; I don't know anything, anything to do with it. And were going to stay after it. I will have to look it up again. But what shocks me is how little these men give their audiences in return for their purchases. Carter, during Monday's news conference, noted the suspect had been living in Delphi all this time, the nearly six years since the teens were found killed Feb. 14, 2017, on a trail east of Delphi. Our group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far. Carrie added that she isn't getting her hopes up that a breakthrough in the five-year-old case could be imminent. I read somewhere an account by a search party member from the night before, that one of the search party organizers prevented his group from searching the actual crime scene by saying you all cant go here, its been searched already. February 24, 2017 What do we do next. He loves the outdoors, but for all his pictures of creeks, bridges, and tents, I havent seen any camo-wearing, rifle-carrying hunting pics that are standard for the FB pages of small town guys who hunt. Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. Why else do you think Carter would have said those things? They certainly have my appreciation. Could it be that subconsciously people remember not so much the trees but what was dangling from them as they tell what they saw? Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . The Delphi Murder Tip Line was routed to the FBI's Major Case Contract Center in Washington, D.C because of the sheer number of calls they were receiving. He has been hiding in plain sight, posting his artwork and cryptic statements on FB, etc. His name only got out recently with the Leaker leak. The 38-year-old was arrested in September 2015 on a warrant for operating a vehicle while intoxicated and driving while intoxicated with a controlled substance. Were not doing that anymore. Also and this constantly nags at me, if LE really has one person, Mr X, in mind but just cannot resolve his alibi, wouldnt that name get around in a small town? So they were alone with each other, supposedly, from ~2 pm to 3.30-4 pm on a Monday afternoon. He is a middle-aged man who has thick hair and a baby face and dresses like a teenager. Perhaps its a violation of social rules, but thats not in the DSM yet. It describes his activity the day the girls went missing. I know this all describes Mr. X, but I still think these same things, whether its him or someone else. On Feb. 13, 2017, the two friends had gone for a hike on the Delphi Historic Trails and were reported missing by their families when they did not return home that afternoon. That Monday afternoon, the two ventured onto the trail around the Monon High Bridge. One reason this particular homicide case came to national attention is the haunting cell phone and social-media clues the girls left behind. Non-uniform officers searched. The family had trouble finding people to help them search. That should at least tell us something. Allen was taken into custody on Oct. 26 by detectives on the task force after probable cause allowed it. If these claims of the crime scene condition and signatures left behind by the killer are false, then I have to wonder what on earth the police found so bizarre. The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have . All that is known about the murders is that the girls' bodies were "posed," and undisclosed trophies were taken from each victim. There were no stuffed animals in trees. Delphi Murders Walkthrough via CrimeDoor The girls failed to meet Libby's father at the appointed time of 3:15 pm. Our police sources told us that Mr. X is indeed the main suspect. Gray makes over $100,000/year from his podcasts, which is fine by me. Hes just an ordinary AFC. The motion cites the extensive media coverage as reasons for the proposed gag order. The superintendent reminded those attending and listening remotely to the press conference to continue sending any information related to the case about Allen or any other individual to the tip line set up years ago: Call 1-844-459-5786; or email abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Its not his mother and its not the Exorcist girl, its Libby. Mr. X? They are asking that anyone who recognizes the man in this photo to call the Carroll County Sheriff's Department at 765-564-2413, the Delphi Police Department at 765-564-2345 or the Indiana . She is rumored to have been brutalized more than Abby. The Murder Sheet Podcastfirst published the documents, and I-Team 8 has confirmed with a police source that the document is authentic. The next day, Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found murdered allegedly by the unidentified man Libby. The FBI also announced that it is utilizing approximately 6,000 electronic billboards in 46 states to solicit information on the case. So were all just kind feeling our way and figuring out what our purpose is now. I guess it hasnt gotten around the town much. Our group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far. DELPHI, Ind. "Yeah, that is a weird a** coincidence that I happened to talk to her like I get that.". His voice sounds very like the phone recording, raspy. If its the same guy I think hes a hunter who worked for Tyson. Thanks for your work and your blog. The photo, which was recovered from Libertys cellphone, showed a man who authorities said was walking on the Delphi Historic Trails and might have participated in the murders, according to a news release. Presumably they were told that they could wreck the case if they told people what they saw. I have thought flora & Delphi are connected ever since I learned of the Flora Fire. (WISH) Investigators believe the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were moved and staged at the Delphi murder scene, according to court documents obtained by I-Team 8. Nice guy! He may indeed have been a hunter who worked for Tyson. Before Tuesday's hearing, prosecutors filed a motion for what amounts to a gag order, asking the court to bar statements or comments outside of the courtroom from all involved attorneys, law enforcement officials, court personnel, the coroner and family members. However, here is my argument for him as the BG: He does resemble the man in the video, particularly the short lower leg area. Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. Thx for the point about girls being abducted off trails and being boxed in on both sides in both cases. McLeland said the public and media interest in the case rekindled after Allen's arrest, and Allen's wife had to flee the community. Carroll County prosecutor Nick McLeland give update on the Delphi murders. To me, that explains a lot about why it took them so long to find the girls in the first place. Apparently that was enough to shut up most of the SPMs. You dont think there were stuffed animals at the crime scene? "Today is not a day to celebrate," Superintendent of the Indiana State Police Doug Carter said. Just a guess. The two SPMs both reporting that there were stuffed animals plural instead of singular seems sufficient to prove that there was more than one stuffed animal at the scene. I think I read about that case! The Indiana detectives investigating the 2017 Delphi murders claimed on Thursday to have new leads in the case and warned their suspect that they know who he is - but are yet to make any. I sure would like to know more about this. Required fields are marked *. He was charged with a probation violation for driving with a suspended license. Kline replied: "I have no clue. Were there dogs? But does that mean that they are kosher slaughterhouses? As you can see in the subhead of my title, I am challenging my critics about their certainty that there was no stuffed animal left at the crime scene. So that seems proven too. He does, as Carter warned, appear younger than he is. What does he mean that they think they have Game but they dont. Would that indicate they (Abby and Libby) were put there after the search was called off? He was seated right smack in the middle of the room. However, bond may be granted if the case does not appear to be strong, according to Indiana law. Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the. DELPHI, Ind. Abby Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on The Monon High Bridge Trail on Feb 13, 2017. they were found murdered the next day, victims of. The river is roughly 40 miles from whereLibby and Abby were killed and around two miles from theKline family home. The public can see the truth of the facts to support this case," he argued, adding that the public also can assess through the documents how their tax dollars were spent in the nearly six-year investigation. Watch on. "But the arrest on two counts of murder is sure a major step in leading to a conclusion in the long-term and complex investigation.". Of course he knew who they were. DELPHI, Ind. Richard Allen arrested:Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the grandparents of one of the girls spoke of how their lives have turned a page. Both of the Pattys are quite insistent that theres no way he did it after all, he was a friend of theirs. "It would be great to finally get some justice for the girls. He makes public posts that he would, and has before beaten up men who prey on kids. ISP's tip line related to the case will remain open so the public can share information about the suspect or others possibly involved in the case. Maybe BG felt he would be able to identify him since he had Crime Scene experience and had him done away with. Also the point about girls being dumped in places frequented by hunters. I just cant imagine my peers posting things like that. Your email address will not be published. We will refer to this new informant as SPM2 for Search Party Member 2. He was also charged with similar offenses in November 2021 - a pending case at the time of his arrest earlier this month. Scarf around neck. The chatter rose again after Allen sat down between his attorneys. "We now move forward through the Indiana criminal justice system allowing the system to provide its due diligence and process," Carroll County SheriffTobe Leazenbysaid at a press conference inside Delphi United Methodist Church. Its about Abby and Libby, their families and this community.. Good job! "While this is another chapter in this story, our lives that were going through right now, I want to make sure we continue that, right? I havent seen this stuff. Were going to keep pushing all the way. I think this is one of the essential clues in both cases. Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. Simply because Delphi, Flora fire, and prior fraud/scams, all would be the same crime. Ive looked at associates of the business owners of the Flora house fire, and there are some very interesting names, big names, powerful names, cop names, etc. The investigation is far from complete, Carter said new details and documents will not be released until deemed appropriate in the process. that they must witness throughout their careers and how extremely difficult it must be to deal with. -- There may be a potential break in the unsolved murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana. Press J to jump to the feed. No, but no way is this guy involved. He was pretty young and had a lot of children. Maybe because he witnessed real dolls where the girls were found? 2023 CIRCLE CITY BROADCASTING I, LLC. You would think that a bunch of dolls hanging from the trees and stuffed animals would draw a lot of attention to the killzone if not at night then at least when the lights came back on. The tattoo has already been debunked. My thoughts as well. Ive thought about that too, honestly. Delphi murders:What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed. Anyone remember that letter and who that search coordinator was? Its nice to have a serious conversation without people chiming in with what if BG is a woman? (one thing I actually read this week) and other absurd speculation. Our understanding also is that he never even called her to have her bring the keys. Citizens? He wore layers because he was living largely outside. I dont know about the rest of you, but I am looking at that damned bear or dog or whatever it is and I am thinking, Thats a stuffed animal. If any of you all think thats not a stuffed animal and its really something else, speak up now or forever hold your tongue. When the the girls did not show up for their ride home, Libby's family became concerned and family members started a search that was joined by many in the Delphi community. Generally at organized searches there's a required sign in sheet so all the volunteers can be accounted for at the end of the search shift. "My office, me, felt it was important to seal those records," McLeland said. Richard Allen, 50, was charged with the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi, Ind., in February 2017. The time will come when additional details can be released, but again today is not that day, Indiana State Police Superintendent Douglas Carter said. How was it organized? If you have any information on the Delphi murders, contact law enforcement at 1-800-225-5324 or Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Theyre seeing whatever they want to see in him. Allen pleaded not guilty in a preliminary hearing, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said in a news conference Monday. He himself is then arrested for trying to rape/kill a nine year old. True crime podcasters investigating the brutal 2017 murders of two young girls in Delphi, Indiana, say they spotted law enforcement conducting a search of waters close to where their bodies were . This is still a very ongoing investigation, McLeland said. I think they were lured or catfished at some point. They try to walk it back in more recent interviews but you can see it on their face. The agent also references the video on Libbys phone where the suspect says guys, down the hill. She confirms the full video is 43 seconds long. I dont even know what that means. The document was written by an FBI agent and describes what investigators found when they discovered the bodies of Abby and Libby on Feb. 14, 2017. Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. Carroll County prosecutor Nick McLeland give update on the Delphi murders. On Sunday, Patty posted a photo of Liberty near a pool, a beach towel tied around her like a cape with the caption: Fitting., After Mondays news conference, Kelsi German, Libertys sister, said in a tweet: Oct. "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. It is our theory that Mr. X stalked Libby on Snapchat for four months until the murders. On Delphi, I agree with you about Chadwell. As a psychologist though, It does makes me stop and think about LE and the types of scenes and different tragedies etc. A RELATIVE of a suspect in the Delphi murders was taken into custody earlier this month as investigators concluded a weeks-long search in a local river potentially linked to the unsolved case. 'Today is the day': Update to Delphi murders of Libby and Abby announced by ISP, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Becky Patty said that Libby had met Mr. X a couple of times, but she didnt think Libby would recognize him. They had been keeping this a secret for all this time, but this secret was starting to bother her and eat away at her, so she released it to a member of my team, a woman. Which brings me to the question, why not donate to our enterprise here? DELPHI MURDERS Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. How many more than one? Theyre seeing evil in everything where theres generally none. We also believe that he never lost them in the first place, and they were probably in his pocket the whole time. How about getting your moneys worth? | ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Thats after he had been at the site for 18 hours after he first lost his keys from 6:30 PM 2/13 12:30 PM 2/14 and then another eight hours from 12:30 PM 2/14 to 8:30 PM on the same day for a total of 26 hours after losing his keys. Radio says his wife is due to be coming to bring him back his keys and please let her in when she comes. Officials did not discuss the timeline of events or evidence that led to Allens arrest, saying only that a judge determined that there was probable cause. The tip line number is 1-844-459-5786. This is also a problem because brains go everywhere and this is probably how those prion diseases like Mad Cow disease are spreading. Im not sure about that. Authorities conducted an all-day search of the Delphi double murder suspect's property around 10 days before his arrest, sources told The Post. Its too convenient that BP appraised the house, like you said, she is connected to 6 murdered childrenMy theory? Very suspicious. For more information, please see our DELPHI, Ind. CVS worker Richard Matthew Allen, 50, was charged in October after an analysis concluded a 40-caliber round that was found between the bodies of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams had come from a gun he owned, according to a probable cause affidavit made public Tuesday. the detective asked. His trial is tentatively set to begin on March 20. Carroll County judge recuses himself in Delphi murders. What's the procedure when bodies are located? The agent also confirms the girls were followed by the suspect on the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, and that there were no visible signs of a struggle or fight. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. Still, the voice of the suspected. We must continue to be mindful of their surviving family members and the entire Carroll County community who are affected by this investigation., Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter, The FBI has provided assistance to the Indiana State Police and the Carroll County Sheriffs Office in this investigation and will continue to help in any way we can to see justice done for Libby and Abby. Who said there were stuffed animals at the crime scene? The police didn't take them seriously at the very beginning. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. I'm wondering if the families were even told about what the scene itself disclosed, or given any details about the crime scene such as; how the girls' bodies were left at the crime scene. The transcript shows that he also failed a polygraph test about his knowledge of the Delphi case, after which he returned home and deleted his Snapchat and Instagram accounts. (WISH) People in Delphi say the community is far from closure despite an arrest announcement in the 2017 murders of two girls, Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby .
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