Just wonderin, Similarities That is where I had to start over. They were belittled and mocked if they tried to set boundaries or said they preferred not to be hugged. Thats only whats been reported. This morning, Nancy Ortberg posted Flawed Process, Wounded Women on her website. Jesus takes care of the harvest. In the last few months as this media storm has rained down confusion and . If he did nothing wrong, he wouldnt have done it unless you really buy *he did this to save the church* meme. Is there love afte. @ Davis and Natasha: So sad. Wonder who taught Billy to dress like a leader. You will eventually find like minded people. They can protect the vulnerable better if they wise up. Stop the Nonsense, WCC Trebuchet Club!!!! Of course, some people, probably many people, will do things just for politeness sake. But Hybels and Willow Creek kept moving forward. Maybe Im misinterpreting. That attitude was a LOT more prevalent than people think. If you cant trust your pastor who can you trust? Wondering if the old frog in the pot was happening at the church, including John Ortberg. Family. Perhaps after a time. when Bill Hybels prayed for/about something no matter what it was, that according to Hybels God always answered him immediately or within days, Indeed, the Lords hand is not too short to save, and His ear is not too deaf to hear. I tell you, when someone like BH is exposed, people come out of the woodworks to defend their celebrity hero and attempt to discredit the victims. And its worse for Christian rocks stars, because nobody spiritualizes your regular rock band, and expects them to be perfect. Their view of the person is completely undermined by the experience. Lynne Hybelsis the wife of Bill Hybels-renowned founder and senior pastor of Willow Creek Community Church in Illinois, This year in 2018, Billhas been publicly accused of sexual harassment and h e has resigned from the megachurch he and Lynnefounded, In the last few months as this media storm has rained down confusion and grief on those at the I mean, it makes for good gossip too. Is it the lack of family having your back? It took her a long time to get up the courage to say enough was enough. How many church leaders are not of His sheep ? If John Ortberg was a heel, I dont see how that has any bearing on the situation. Leaders who walk in the dark are not representing Jesus but rather the same Devil the original Pharisees did. I treated my childhood dog like a doll. How long are you going to allow Satan to control your actions? Then the man of God acts as if nothing happened.. Give me the bellicose jerks any time. And thats how you end up with an entire institution being transformed in a little over two decades. Of course Billy Graham never led anyone to Jesus. I have already commented on that nonsense that just went up. At least you know what they are upfront . In my 9 years of writing a blog which deals with abuse issues, I have been deeply upset by the responses of Christians when their celebrity church or pastor have been shown to have clay feet. One thing Im certain of, Bill Hybels would NEVER have hired men like Paul or Peter to be teaching pastors at Willow. If it doesnt recur, people often try to dismiss it as an aberration. The beast must be fed. In this case, not only Peter but Barnabas and others were getting caught up in inerrant action that impacted Christian fellowship. In 1974, Bill Hybels married Lynne while he was still a youth pastor. As for the hug thing, & why didnt Nancy Ortberg say somethingwell, for a year or two now, my Christian neighbour, who Ive been friends with him & his wife for about 25 years, has been giving me lingering hugs, which end up with his hands resting on my lower back as often as he can when he drops into my house, hes made a few inappropriate comments about my breasts (they are a standing joke amongst me & my friends as Im a buxom lass), often tries to rub my shoulders as he knows I have shoulder issues& youre the first people Ive told. Im particularly disgusted by They said they could look him in the eye and discern if he was telling the truth.. I have going to professional society meeting for over 30 years, and hospitality suites are expected/ the norm. . Bigger news story is the Humbolt bus crash. That is a typical church response. Willow Creek has run many many seminars teaching other churches how to impliment the Williow Creek model. Will they not both fall into a pit? Because his REAL Personal LORD and Savior (PASTOR Hybels) is getting Blasphemed. So, let me challenge you, go back and rethink the *speck in the eye* verses. READ MORE: Brian Scotto Net Worth Books Some of his published books are: The Power of a Whisper: Hearing God, Having the Guts to Respond; Too Busy Not to Pray: Slowing down to Be with God; Simplify: Ten Practices to Unclutter Your Soul; False teaching/theology always has a wrong view of God, man, sin, and salvation. My assessment is that the entire leadership there at Willow Creek needs to be held accountable and the base must face this issue with appropriate consequences. Its never about us, but always focused on Jesus the Perfecter of our faith. If you cant trust your pastor who can you trust? I pity you if thats the case. They dont feel like telling anyone, just swallow it and hold it in. Keeping this in the forefront of out thoughts should help us from becoming disappointed when another pastor is caught. And influence a few. Nothing more. Its not about perfection but it is about striving to be. If it is impossible for the man to keep his hands to himself, then it is the responsibility of the women to activate their own tell-the-difference perception and act accordingly. Gregory of Nyssa was about as Orthodox as one can get, and yet he was also about as universalist as one can get. Cant people be sincere and caring without all that? https://futuristguymedia.wordpress.com/pyramid-of-abuse-and-culpability-complicity/. Dear TWW readers, I am in Australia so I comment and tweet and post things on FB when you are asleep if you are in the USA. Bill Hybels and Willow Creek, Ravi Zacharias, Steve Timmis and Acts 29, Hillsong New York City pastor Carl Lentz, James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel are just a few of the names I could list. @ Julie: Watch and youll see it some day! I looked it up and way down on the list it says rarely it might cause some to do things they dont remember. What would you have suggested she tell her husband? Not one. Should Christians be carrying around tally sheets-How many did I lead to Christ this week? I know this sounds harsh but its notbecause I am guilty, too. Perhaps God is looking for a different type of leadership in His Church. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FLT3Cb96-Mk. Refuse to settle for eloquent lechers. I worked for a large pharmaceutical firm. Glory to God. Rudyard Kipling, The Picts Song (about guerilla warfare), Ok. Ok. Too many missed opportunities to do the right thing. How can you say to your brother, Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye, when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? I hope that someone who knows what they are doing is archiving all of the official statements and documents by Hybels and WC. there was nothing inappropriate about Bill trying to guide your whole self as an up and coming leader. Learn to value yourself. Wow!!! @ Forrest: Nigerian pop song about a con man. I underestimated their ability to constantly reinvent themselves to keep the money flowing. Some sources say that they dated for five years, broke up, got engaged then broke their engagement and later got back together and finally got married. Children The couple has two children. I cannot imagine the pain, the hurt. Who is Bill Hybels? Bill also admitted that the woman alleging an affair had spent many nights at the Hybels home when Lynne was out of town. Actually, those are the tools of the enemy, formerly called deception and it is THAT which God desires to rescue us from. Stop claiming to be the victim! Alway such an emphasis on putting Willow Creek 1st, how about putting Jesus 1st? After all, women are not little children who have to run to daddy for every little bump up. The man who assaulted me regularly made passes at women in public. It was not well written It was a farce and all those behind it need to get a reality check. @ dee: . toward a fellow parishioner or perhaps esteemed clergyman?). Why is it people cannot just go to work,college, etc, without the social safety net of artificial group belonging? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. Is faith journey a synonym for sanctification? I wonder if her crisis of faith was after finding out about something shady Bill was doing? And why on earth is this even a discussion? If the 21st century church had the same healthy respect for a literal hell that the 1st century church had, we might behave differently in and out of church including church leaders! Stop attacking victims. Brad, given my age, their is a high probability that I was taking college bible class before you were born. When its someone you respect and trust, you dont expect aberrant behavior and you are surprised by it. predatory, calculated and manipulative all with a facade of kindness and mentoring. Emily McFarlan Miller. @ Jack: Its the same thing my university wrings their hands over. Hybels condemned himself. You and who else; or is it just you princess? Updated | Rev. These things were the normal and the personal assistants was more than happy to go along. . Some will walk away all together from their faith journey. I was deeply wounded and deeply burdened with guilt and self anger. She also questioned her own judgment in whether he was actually being inappropriate. @ Davis and Natasha: I read it Daily and Journal too. My wife worked for a Fortune 500 and did grad work in the hard sciences, she taught for a Pac12 university, I have taught law in higher ed for 15 years. But one thing I know, we have a choice in our behaviors. If they were sent and stored in a encrypted format, then you would need the key to open them and read them. Read Acts 2. @ Lydia: The solution? As I continued reading the thread, you did not sound at all like the person on Twitter. @ jackie: No idea the the Bible says, Do the work of an evangelist!. It was part of his long time abuse of her. Church Discipline @ Davis and Natasha: People we once thought of as reasonable become angry. Why are you slamming the Bride of Christ? Either way, doesnt matter. . Realizing it WAS NOT YOU. I could be misconstruing everything & he may just be being over-sympathetic to me as a now single woman, trying to be nice, trying to be helpful (which he is to everyone). An accusation could hurt the church, the members and even Christianity. Second guessing somebodys way of dealing with their own spouse is usually really wrong. Those of us in the pews and on staff are at fault. We were just people who assumed the best of those who claimed to be leading in the name of God. Please do me a favor Only quote smaller sections of a comment. He got GAWD on his side Membership Covenants And if it gets really bad the staunch hybels factions may end up being ousted. He just got knocked off his pedestal and some of his supporters are throwing up their hands in despair. The founding couple died, and the board got rid of those naughty kids and grandkids. Gossip! That group togetherness thing costs big time. I dont see this issue is white or black hats. I never saw a cross hanging in Willow nor heard a pastor speak out against gay marriage, women pastors or the slaughter of the Palestinians, etc . Read Acts 2. One does not mess with God and get away with it. Remember Bill hybels stepped down. 4 YEARS went by that John Ortberg learned about this issue Yes, Nancy may have not been sure when she had her experience.. with Bill in the hotel room. He didnt seem to follow Yahwehs rules much anyway. Like you, quite a few of us have spent years studying it deeply. Its amazing how many believers will interpret the metaphor of fruit differently, for example. Tysvm Dee. Peter was upset. Be nice and your comments will be let through. Some will walk away all together from their faith journey. is lynne hybels still married to bill. Parallel universe I suppose; different set of rules most likely. So done. Tonight we wept in sadness for all the people closely associated with this story, yes, even for Bill and Lynn and for their adult children. @ dee: Brad I am the Bride of Christ, the Church, as are Dee and Deb and many others who post here. . She claims Bill Hybels brought up the incident in Hawaii about the ambien. This year in 2018, Bill has been publicly accused of sexual harassment and h e has resigned from the megachurch he and Lynne founded. For someone who set himself up as a leader of leaders, Hybels made a critical leadership mistake here. The FAQ document she links, however, entitled Willow Creek Response to Local Media, has mysteriously transformed itself into a 404 NOT FOUND message. 1 kiss As I said, I dont hug people at work. So sad. Four-One-Nine just a Game Brothers Dont Shake Hands, Brothers Gotta Hug. Tommy Boy, its definitely legit and very well written. If there is one thing I find the most comprehensively evil is manipulative deception. Its up to the Willow Creek to distinguish themselves and so far, based on the comments here, they have not. You think you know yet you dont. Not atypical. ", © 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 - The Wartburg Watch. It was alleged in an article of 'Chicago Tribune.' Further, the Chicago Tribune and Christianity Today too reported allegations about his misconduct. Nothing can really tear down the church, as I think it was Law Prof that said, but people can get pretty mad when their fantasy of church and the people that promote that fantasy are shown to be very imperfect. This caliber of leaders dont just stay quiet. He has denied. So, Ive also read it in the Original Languages. I know a lot of people who just want Christian life to be perfect and they will use every type of denial tactic to believe thats true. How is that not normal? Good grief, until this minute I had no idea there was such a thing as a hug culture. There s more news coming out. Bill Hybels is a legendary figure in the world of business. He got out of Dodge and left people behind to pick up the pieces. Try as I might, I do not see that sort of response in ScriptureDo not be the disciple with the sword. We are to be tools in the hands of God. I mean, most say they want the truth. Willow Creek is an entertainment church and Hybels its star. Older churches tend to have better systems in place for transitions and maybe enough history to understand that a church is not one man. Jodi may want to keep her resume refreshed. I was contemplating a megachurch model the other day where teaching pastors had term limits or rotating speakers. Very true, and far too common: Jerry Sandusky, Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, Dr. Larry Nassar, Bill Hybels. Thanks, Julie! This was shortly after a truly awful Christianese Youth Group rap number (GANGSTAAAAAA!!!! I will keep the website updated. Let me give you some good news. Or is this site simply about wholesale condemnation. I dont know if that all makes sense. . not for this long. Sounds more like damage control. @ Erp: That said, this is all so tragic. Excuse me? Without gossip and people looking out, anyone who has been hurt by church/leadership will simply be driven out, and the whole thing covered up. But Moses said to the LORD, Oh, my Lord, I am not eloquent, either in the past or since you have spoken to your servant, but I am slow of speech and of tongue. 11 Then the LORD said to him, Who has made mans mouth? Oh yeah. Bill Hybels touched me, hugged me invited me to his room I left then went to my hotel room and cried.. And to think that Willow Creek notables have been hanging out with him! William Edward (Bill) LaBarre of Marietta passed away at his home at 1:52 AM Saturday, February 25, 2023 surrounded by his family. His wife had died rapidly of inflammatory breast cancer and we were at the funeral home for visitation. And everyone wants to work there. It was through him that I first heard the Gospel as a nonChristian teen in a nonChristian family in Salem MA. Excellent comment! I am so very proud of her and with how hard this has been on everyone. Convinced and groomed like Good Little Suckers/Easy Marks. Its a thing now. There was also some sort of one world conspiracy deal. Is that honest? I think we have lived the same life. This is VERY common. I was contemplating a megachurch model the other day where teaching pastors had term limits or rotating speakers. Many self/proclaimed Christians dont. Having Church in your club title does not necessarily mean it is the Bride of Christ. @ okrapod: @ Thersites: And those who go on to attack the victims are generally clueless as to what the bible actually teaches. The worst that often has happened is some vague mumbled half-apology or copping to a general misunderstanding. 4 unwanted extended hugs (thats including Nancy Ortbergs latest revelation). publishers suspend publication of books by megachurch pastor Hybels. They also have two children together, whose name we don't know. The elders at Willow Creek Community Church tonight sent an email to congregants, stating that the church is "heartbroken" over the "abuse" of a congregant. All of the disciples failed Jesus. Its the same thing my university wrings their hands over. Wow!!! I have plenty of people whod vouch that Im often a royal pain in the keester, that I shoot from the hip, that I get downright angry, often in an ungodly way, when dealing with bullies, especially religious bullies, youd probably find some whod call me a contentious man, but I dont think youd find one of them whod call me a liar, a sleazy operator, a shifty lawyer type. But at church with people you see week after week? . Got any other people of substance who would vouch for you? She was running with him outside. @ Barbara Roberts: Things add up all too well, sadly. Speak the Word when it is time and serve with love always. 20 years later Ive served in ministry as well as a school administrator for small and very large public high schools. Its all lies doesnt cut it and sounds ridiculous. I cant deny I have been blessed by WC and the GLS. I mentioned how I recently read of a church where the IT had a deal with pastor to delete specifically his e-mails I laugh and say fat chance I can get him to do that for me! Standing Ovations: Whats the Difference Between Highpoint Church and Willow Creek Community Church, Some Thoughts on Supposedly Feminist Men Who Reportedly Abuse/Harass Women | futuristguy, http://www.divorceminister.com/nancy-ortberg-shares-her-side-rebill-hybels-allegations/, https://vondadyer.weebly.com/blog/vonda-dyers-statement-re-chicago-tribune-and-bill-hybels, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0EtdtPi8w, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv72Q23lIp0, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bKkOke2noyc, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FLT3Cb96-Mk, https://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=28151%5D, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_seed. Obviously very biblically ignorant site!! Really? Because TWW doesnt have a tick the box to be notified of future comments, and because my comments seem to go live straight away, I have often felt unconfident that the TWW team or people I have replied to in a comments thread at TWW have noticed my comments. Thanks Erp that is *very* helpful information! (A bit dogmatic, huh? I am going to add one further post that will be two pictures and then I will allow all these posts to stay for comment. https://cryingoutforjustice.com/2018/03/01/for-professionals-who-work-in-domesic-abuse-dv/. Who makes him mute, or deaf, or seeing, or blind? Anyone who says otherwise or who tries to slam someone for not telling immediately just doesnt know what theyre talking about. Rob Bells questioning of Hell has earned him a spot on the heresy list. The creep factor never ceases to amaze me. Did her husband ask her not to say anything for FEAR of losing his job? I am going to ask a hard question. The gospel includes that in spite of what happened God is willing to forgive and restore the sinner in relationship to God. Using God like a tool. This video was shot in and aroundKirkenesand Pas National Park bordering Russia, at 70 degree north and 30 degrees east. I say we are. Put a frog in a pot,with boiling water and the frog knows to jump out, but if the water is a slow boil, the frog with stay and finally be boiled. Willow Creek needs Jesus and they need to let Him be in control. 2 comments not allowed. Lynne Hybels did not respond to messages seeking comment. etc. You just described me. These have what I think are some significant parallels from which to consider some larger patterns. Some until their death beds. Thanks for the link and summary, Barbara this sounds like noteworthy research on specific dynamics! Thats how they get by with it. And, no, it does not minimize their words concerning what Bill Hybels has done. The Kingdom of God is not massive corporate structures and clever corporate game plans. Take responsibility for your actions and the role you played! https://www.amazon.com/Corporate-Cults-Insidious-All-Consuming-Organization/dp/0814404936. Sounds like at least some of the accusers would like to see justice for sure, but also redemption for even Hybels. Does Willow Creek teach leaders how to marginailze church members that do not have the vision that the pastor does? I find it ironic Jodi thinks she is helping Billy. How can this stand unchallenged? Be an individual. I am not surprised at all that it will get ugly There are people that are totaly sold out to seeker sensitive approch. https://spiritualsoundingboard.com/2018/04/12/resource-bibliography-on-willow-creek-church-situation-and-bill-hybels-reported-misconduct/. A brave woman called each person out, which led to subsequent allegations, Differences This caliber of leaders dont just stay quiet. At CertainPublicSchool kids have been caught in the rest room actually having sex as well as dosing on drugs. I mean, it makes for good gossip too. People of Willow Creek, save your church by demanding resignations from he full Elder Board and lead pastors. . (The servants name was Malchus. Paul spoke up, and evidently appropriate action was taken, for which the Church at large benefitted. Megachurch pastors have big institutions to feed as well: huge entities that gobble millions a year, maybe hundreds of millions. Who are the people our Creator said were His people? Certainly not the ones who keep claiming they are always the victims. My Comment was Deleted Sounds like he at the time did some things that outside of context would be perceived as unwise with co-workers. And my guess is the elders dont know either. I can't apologize for his choices, but I do apologize for mine," she explained. I believe God will welcome Bill into heaven with open arms for the positive work he has done. As with many couples, there were times we couldn't imagine making it through another year, let alone another decade or two. Obviously very biblically ignorant site!! Yes, I am. Jesus is our model of leadership. Im unclear about what faith journey means, but it sounds very Willow Creek. So, as with what apparently happened at Willow Creek Church and Bill Hybels having his emails removed, that wasnt really a great idea. Worshipers of men. Because it was not entirely clear what happened. I read it Daily and Journal too. Dee and Deb, if you are able, can you please let Vonda know about my previous comment? Have you any clue how prideful this sounds? Shauna Niequist has apologised for failing to speak up after her father, Bill Hybels, was accused of sexual misconduct. It was alleged in an article of 'Chicago Tribune.' Further, the Chicago Tribune and Christianity Today too reported allegations about his misconduct. I know the sun will rise in the morning, that there is a light at the end of every tunnel.Michael Morpurgo. I get it bothers you. Chicago Tribune article #5, by Manya Brachear Pashman. You tell your kids That was wrong. Does anybody know how much hugging it takes to facilitate which feeling, assuming that the response is does related? Mary, read your Bible carefully. Remember all those times we hung out together and nothing happened? Or, this particular post on my research blog might be of note the Pyramid of Abuse and Culpability/Complicity. 40 years of it. Look for similarities with the other victims testimonies. We can only judge actions. It would seem the as yet unnamed individual, reported to have had an affair, has legal claim against multiple parties. Most common reaction in the world. But only a few. I have encountered such men who speak pridefully about how many they have saved. Its been drilled into our heads and many are convinced if the perp or deceiver is confronted (even years later) they will repent. Id just as soon do away with megas altogether, and I doubt anybody would even try either, but it might be better than placing the popularity of a church on a single person. And while Hybels coached men to abide by the so-called "Billy Graham rule"never being alone with a women he was not married tohe often broke that rule, according to the Tribune. Only the Lord knows, way above my paygrade to say with any certainty, but observing fruits and the lack thereof is not above my paygrade. And ironically, asking that question is why. This is centralized and IT probably has a means if necessary of reading the email (though it probably requires fairly high level authorization). We got in deep, and had a very tough time when we got out. There are cuddle friends. * This person really taught the Hybels was like Joseph who was thrown into a pit and sold into slavery. Brad may be a Christian, one stunted by being immersed in an environment that had the form of godliness while denying the power, but he also may be one who wouldnt know Jesus if He walked up and gave him a hug. Or perhaps I am not getting it that this is the official stand of the elders, as well as Hybels. Read the Bible. Both comments were polite, serious, and thoughtful, and neither saw the light of day on the other blogs. My assessment is that the entire leadership there at Willow Creek needs to be held accountable and the base must face this issue with appropriate consequences. Example, why did you agree in front of everyone to stay after everyone they all left,you idiot. By your own philosophy of hugging then i would assume that the women who are complaining about Hybels hugging behavior also know the difference and therefore they are utterly correct in their objections to his behavior. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. Thank you for that comment, Lydia. Medical records are handled in this fashion. What they are doing is exactly what someone who has been there would expect them to do. Throughout this scorching page-turner, Roy is charming and has a I hope that you are correct that what was stated by Jodi Walle is not true. Shameful! Redemption is just that; a snatching away from utter separation from God and a second chance-sometimes a chance to bring down the idolatrous temple of a strange god and die in the process while you stand there blind and in shackles-but restored by God. Jodi may get extra points for a time for her clever rant but if this thing goes south she will be the first to go. I am a Billy Graham fan, just so you know. There are many Gods or gods. It alarmed me to learn that Nancy Ortberg was also the subject of Bill Hybels' unwanted attention and actions. We are most certainly called to make judgements on actions. The trusting person is the dupe who was groomed to respond accordingly. Really? Because it was not entirely clear what happened. 1 comment about arms We werent leaders, but we can tell you re: Stowell and many others that they leave and say nothing or little to protect their own reputations and future work in ministry. Unless, of course, its useful as an excuse How hard is it for men to keep their hands off women in the work environment? It has bearing but perhaps not in the way that Jodi intends. He told me to sit down and put my feet up. Theres been so much of this lately that I think (hope!) Driscoll will do quite well in charismatic ranks. And it still doesnt negate what Bill Hybels did, even if it were to be true. (3) A fifteen-minute phone conversation, also on April 6th, with the woman who made the confession, who had previously emailed Leanne three times that if her story went public she would deny it. not for this long. On the surface, an extended hug may seem harmless, even though deep down it creeps you out a little. I too believed that what I experienced was an aberration and couldnt be attributed to a person of such spiritual stature. Instead, these women were displayed like his leadership trophies. Then they become red flags. That said, this is all so tragic. She is exposing the bizarro world of mega churches. Ephesians 4:2. The woman alleging an affair with Bill said that she was suicidal, both to Leanne and to Bill. The accusations against Hybels come from multiple women, including several former employees who spoke on the record with the Chicago Tribune as a part of a major investigation published in March . Are you saying that letter posted was well written? Shameful! There are too many similarities between their stories. Agreed. But if true it is still not honorable behavior. Was Hybels intimating that The Ambien made me do it? 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